Seminar 3 Dinosaurs and the Bible, part a
(this seminar was given in 2005, with a few sections added from 1999 seminar)
|[Introduction to Dr. Hovind], [Dr. Hovind's justice cycle], [Is Dr. Hovind being edited?], [Dr. Hovind vs Wikipedia]
|[Video presentation of seminars 1-7], [Introduction to seminar transcripts], [Seminar 1: “The Age of the Earth”],
[Seminar 2: “The Garden of Eden”],
[Seminar 3: “Dinosaurs and the Bible”],
[Seminar 4: “Lies in the Textbooks?”],
[Seminar 5: “The Dangers of Evolution”],
[Seminar 6: “The Hovind Theory”],
[Seminar 7: “Question and Answers”]
“For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”
DVD introduction by Eric Hovind
You know, for many years the existence of dinosaur fossils was thought to be a problem for the creationist and for the Biblical account of creation. Hi, my name is Eric. And what you are about to see is a powerful seminar that combines the last 30 years of research done by Dr. Hovind. It is in a field called, crypto-zoology. Which is the study of, hidden animals. The seminar is titled: Dinosaurs and the Bible.
Seminar 3: Dinosaurs and the Bible
Well, thank you for joining us; it's an honor to be here at Hyles-Anderson College in Indiana. How many have been to one of my seminars before or seen one of my videos before? Ok, how many never have? And how many do not understand the question so far? Good, same three as yesterday. Good. My name is Kent Hovind. I taught high school science for fifteen years. And now for the last sixteen years I have been an evangelist. I speak about 900 times a year now on the subject of creation, evolution and dinosaurs. And I take the position that the Bible is literally true and scientifically accurate. And the evolution theory being taught in our schools, in violation of the first amendment, is the dumbest and the most dangerous religion in the history of planet earth. No dumber idea ever, anyway.
I live in Pensacola, Florida. I have three kids, one of each, all grown up now. I have them all married, the dog died. Praise God I made it and I am home free. And so far four grandkids and that's God reward for not killing your own kids when you thought about it. So hang in there, it will be worth it all! All my family lives right around me and they all work in the ministry. So it's great having kids that love the Lord. A couple are back at the table back there and one running the camera.
‘Dinosaur Adventure Land’ (Pensacola, Florida)
We have in our back yard in Pensacola, Florida, Dinosaur Adventure Land. I like dinosaurs. Our phone number is 479DINO, our website is www.drdino.com. Dinosaur Adventure Land's phone number is 478DINO3466, for you alphabetically challenged folks. We like dinosaurs; we have thousands and thousands of visitors come. We have probably had close to a thousand people get saved coming through our Dinosaur Adventure Land. Everything that we do there has a science lesson and a spiritual lesson, we have a blast using dinosaurs for the glory of God.
Where do dinosaurs fit in the Bible?
But you know, for the last 200 years, Christians have been extremely confused about where dinosaurs fit into the Bible. I heared a lady last night, I was talking to, witnessing to a lady at the hotel and she said: “Well, I got a friend that told me that dinosaurs never existed.” One guy told me, he said: “The Devil put those bones in the ground to fool us.” Well, you're gonna look like an idiot when talking to anyone with normal intelligence when you say something like that, ok. Yes, dinosaurs lived, but when did they live? Where do dinosaurs fit into the Bible?
Here are two of my grandkids playing with one of the dinosaurs at Dinosaur Adventure Land. We have a wonderful time. Christians though often are very confused where they fit in. What's happened, Christians have compromised the clear teaching of the Bible in order to accommodate the dinosaurs. That is why they have the ‘Gap theory’ or the ‘Day-age theory’ or the ‘Progressive creation’ or ‘Theistic evolution’. There is no need to do that. I am gonna give you the Biblical view of dinosaurs here this morning.
Now, this guy in National Pornographic, eh Geographic, said that no human being has ever seen a live dinosaur. Now just hold on a minute, does he know that or does he think that? He thinks that. There's no possible way that he could know something like that, unless he talked to everybody that ever lived. Do you think he talked to Adam or Eve before he wrote that? Did he talk to you before he wrote that? No, ok. That is not something that you can know. The Bible says (Gen. 1:1): “In the Beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.” It says: “In six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is...” (Ex. 20:11) Well if he made everything in six days, then Adam must have seen dinosaurs. There's just no two ways about it.
Yesterday we talked about; seminar part 2; what the garden of Eden was like. God says: “Let there be a firmament, in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” (Gen. 1:6) We talked about how God originally created the world with a canopy of water overhead which all fell down at the time of the Flood. It's gone now, and there was most of the water under the crust of the earth. Which all come shooting to the surface when “the fountains of the deep broke open.” (Gen. 7:11) Psalm 24 (v. 1): “The earth is the Lord's, he founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.” Psalm 136 (v. 6): “He stretched out the earth above the waters.” I don't know why Christians can read right over that and not see what it is saying. The water that is now in the ocean used to be in the crust of the earth. It all came shooting out when the fountains of the deep broke open. We cover much more on that on video #6; what caused the Flood in the days of Noah. We call it, The Hovind Theory so that no one else will be blamed for it.
But from the creation 6,000 years ago, up until the Flood, 4,400 years ago, the world was very different. During that time frame the Bible says that people lived over 900 years. They really honestly did live to be 900 plus. It's interesting, many ancient cultures have legends about what they called the Golden Age. The Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Egyptians, all talked about a time where man used to live nearly 1,000. Well, that's because it's really true. They really did live to be almost 1,000. And yesterday we covered about how reptiles grow all their life. Reptiles never stop growing. So dinosaurs were big lizards that lived with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. They did not live millions of years ago.
What did Noah bring on the ark?
So the obvious question would be: “Well, did Noah take dinosaurs on the ark?” They asked Billy Graham: “Were there dinosaurs on the ark?” Bill Graham said: “No, Noah's ark did not include dinosaurs because they were extinct by the time man got here.” Oh now, I praise God for all the good Billy Graham has done, but he is dead wrong about that one, ok. Dinosaurs on the ark? I hope Noah kept the woodpeckers in a steel cage of some kind that'll be important later.
You take babies
People say: “Dinosaurs on the ark? Now Hovind; they are kind of big aren't they?” Yeah, the big ones were big, but the little ones were little. You see Noah was 600 years old when he built that boat, ok. He was probably smart enough to figure out you do not have to bring the biggest one's you can find, ok. You bring two babies, just be sure to bring a pink one and a blue one that'll be important later, ok. There are all kinds of reasons for bringing babies on the ark, ok.
- You bring babies because they are smaller. Well duh. The biggest dinosaur egg is smaller than a football.
- You bring babies because they weigh less.
- They eat less.
- They sleep a lot more.
- They are tougher. You know when kids fall they bounce and then they get up and keep running. Adults fall down and break or lay there for a while.
- Plus you bring babies because after the flood they are gonna live longer to produce more offspring. And that's the reason you are bringing them.
Why on earth would you bring big elephants on the ark? I mean, that would be stupid for multiple reasons, ok. Why would you bring big giraffes? Just bring babies of everything. The young ones.
Two of each kind (i.e. not species)
God told him to bring “two of every sort,” not two of every species, two of every sort. He said, bring them “after his kind, ...after their kind, ...after his kind, ...after his kind.” I mean, the Bible is, you know, real clear on the topic. You bring the kinds of animals, not the species. And you only have to bring those in “whose nostrils have the breath of life,” and only those “on dry land.”
Noah did not have to bring any fish on the ark. They had plenty of water outside, ok. He also did not have to bring any bugs on the ark, because bugs don't have nostrils. Bugs breathe through their skin, through spiracles. Insects were not required to be on the ark. Insects can survive a flood just fine. Go any place where there has been a flood, after the water goes down. Walk out onto the mud and tell me the first thing that you notice. Bugs by the bazillions, right? Yeah, insects did not have to go on the ark. Some of them might have been on there but they did not have to be.
Noah did not take 400 pairs of dogs on the ark. Noah probably never saw a Chihuahua in his life. Why did somebody do that to the dog? All that special breading to create a dog that's 100% useless. Noah probably just had a generic dog like my dog Nikki. We had Nikki for 12 years before I knew what kind of a dog it was. A friend of mine came over and he said Hovind you have a full blooded ‘Canhardly’. I said, what? He said: “Your dog, look at that, that's a Canhardly.” I said, it is? He said: “Look at it man, you ‘can hardly’ tell what kind of dog it is.” Ah, yep, a full blooded ‘Canhardly’.
Probably the horse and the zebra had a common ancestor, like this Mexican textbook says. And I would agree, the horse and a zebra had a common ancestor. But it looked like a horse, ok; four wheel drive, genuine leather upholstery; I mean, all the horse equipment, ok.
How to fit them all?
Skeptics say: “How did Noah fit those millions of animals onto the ark?”
- Well, in the first place he only brought land animals. (Gen. 7:22)
- Secondly he brought only those with nostrils, no bugs. (Gen. 7:22)
- Thirdly you bring babies, and that is just plain old common sense, right.
- Fourthly, you bring two of each kind, not every single variety. (Gen. 7:14)
- And since God made the kinds.
- And God told Noah how big to build the boat. I bet God had it kind of figured out, you know, about what size to make it, you know.
- Plus, how many were there? Many experts will tell you that there are about 8,000 basic kinds of animals in the world. 8,000 basic kinds of animals. Noah had 2 of each kind, now seven of some, I understand. (Gen. 2:19) But, plenty of room on the ark for that.
- Some atheists say: “Well, Adam could never name all those animals in one day.” No, come on. When I get excited I can speak 350 words a minute. At 300 words a minute you can name all the animals in 26 minutes. Dog, cat, elephant, aardvark, hamster, ... I mean, come on, it is not a big deal. Plus you got to figure that Adam had an extremely high IQ. I mean, he came straight from the hand of God, fully programmed. He could speak every language in the world. There was only one, ok. I mean, the guy could walk, talk, name all the animals and get married first day. This guy has super high IQ, ok. No problem naming all the animals in a half hour. Ok, what's next?, alright. What else do you got for me God?
The protesting evolutionist and what ‘they believe...’
- Plus, how big was the ark? I have atheists that I debate all the time, they say: “Noah could never put all those animals on the ark.” I say: “Really, how many were there?” They say: “We don't know.” - “Oh, how big was the boat?” - “We don't know. All we know is that he couldn't do it!” Oh I see, is that the way this works?, ok.
It beats what they believe, they believe “18 or 20 billion years ago there was a big bang. Where nothing exploded, and made everything.” And “4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled down and formed a rocky crust.” Yes, “the planet earth cooled down and a rocky surface was created.” And then “as the earth formed,” the “surface was hot and there were large pools of bubbling lava.” This textbook says: “There was no oxygen on the earth; zero percent oxygen. But the rocks absorbed it.” Say, what? I have been trying to figure that one out for four years, but... anyway. Then “Oceans formed as it rained on the rocks for million of years.” “Millions of years of torrential rains created the oceans.” And “swirling in the waters of the oceans is a bubbling broth of complex chemicals. ...progress from a complex chemical soup to a living organism is very slow.” Boy, it sure is. It don't even happen, that's how slow it is. “Life on earth may have begun in rocks on the ocean floor.” Wow, all came from a rock! “The first self replicating system must have emerged in this organic soup.”
So according to their theory, 20 billion years ago there was a big bang. 4.6 billion years ago the earth formed. It was a hot ball of rock. And then it began to rain, and rain, and rain, and rain, and rain, and rain, and finally the oceans filled in. And in the oceans the first living organisms appeared. So great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa was soup. That's the evolution theory. I didn't make it up, they did. So, you can laugh at them if you'd like, for as far as I am concerned, but...
Now, they asked me to come to speak at this college in Boston one time. This pastor, I was going to speak at a church there. I said: “Brother, call some of the colleges and see if you can have a debate.” I love to do debates against these guys in front of their own university. He called every college within a hundred miles of Boston; there are a lot of colleges around Boston. Finally one college said: “No, we don't want him to come and have a debate, but he can come and speak to our students if our professors can ask him any questions they would like, because we would like to show our students how dumb you Christians really are.” I said: “I would be honored to come for that.” So I showed up. There were 6 professors, all their students. I felt like Daniel in the lion's den, you know. I got my two time-lines out over there and said: “Folks, I believe the Bible,” nobody cheered. I said that I believe that 6,000 years ago God made everything. And 4,400 years ago God made a Flood. When, you know, everything got destroyed in the Flood. And then Noah had two of each kind; not species; kind, on the ark. Since then there's been a whole lot of new varieties produced.
And then I told them what they believe. Because most of them don't know what they believe; you got to tell them, you know. I said: “You guys believe 20 billion years ago, big bang, 4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled down. It rained on the rocks for millions years, turned them into soup. And the soup came alive, 3 billion years ago.” This one professor was getting very angry. I seem to do that to them. He said: “Mr. Hovind do you realize that there are nearly 400 varieties of dogs in the world today?” I said: “Sir, I have no idea how many, but 400 sounds good.” He said: “You mean to tell me that you believe all those dogs came from two dogs on Noah's ark? ” He said: “You want me to believe that?” I said: “Sir, would you look at what you are teaching your students? You are teaching your students that all those dogs came from, a rock.” He didn't have any more questions after that.
I did a debate one time at an university and afterwards this lady came walking down the aisle. Boy, was she mad. The smoke was coming out of her nose. She was angry at me. She came walking straight up toward me. I said: “Lord, I am coming home.” She walkedup and put her hands on her hips and said: “Tonight you told everybody that we believe that we come from a rock. We do not believe that!” I said: “Ma'am you need to calm down; you are going to blow a gasket.” I said: “Ma'am do you believe in evolution?” She said: “Yes, I do. I am a professor here at the university.” I said: “Well, ma'am, would you please tell me then where did we came from?” She said: “We came from a macro-molecule.” I said: “And where did that come from?” She said: “From the oceans, the pre-biotic soup.” I said: “And where did that come from?” She said: “It rained on the rocks for millions of years...” I could see that it was slowly dawning on her. “You know, I do believe that I come from a rock.” Yes ma'am, you do, but better be careful when you go outside. Don't step on grandpa. I found her life verse: “Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; ...to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth.” There's grandpa, right there, yep, yep. I even found my Daddy's life verse in the Bible: “Lord have mercy on my son: for he is a lunatic, and sore vexed.”
Anyway, the Bible says: “The earth was corrupt and filled with violence and God looked upon the earth, and it was corrupt; ...all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said to Noah, The end of all flesh has come before me; ...the earth is filled with violence through them, I will destroy them with the earth. Make thee an ark...” And Noah said to his boys: “Boys, go for wood we've got to build a boat.” So they went and got all this wood, and they built this huge boat. Now after the Flood was over, Noah son had a baby and name him Arphaxhad. Why would any body name a kid, Arphaxhad? Can't you see that kid in kindergarten: “What's your name son?” - “Arphaxhad.” - “Do you know how to spell it?” - “No. Nobody does.” But don't you think that one day little Arphaxhad is getting big enough, he is sitting on grandpa's lap. And he's looking around like kids do, he says: “Hey Grandpa, I have a question, how come we are the only people in the whole world?” You mean we got this whole planet to ourselves? What happened? And grandpa is gonna tell him the story about the Flood. Actually, they are gonna talk about that Flood for a long time.
Down in Pensacola we are gonna be talking about Hurricane Ivan for a long time, ok, and that's just one little storm. Can you imagine a world wide flood? Man, they'll talk about that for centuries. Actually Arphaxhads daddy; Shem, Noah's son; lived long enough to tell that story directly to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You will never catch that reading your Bible, but when you graph it out, it is like... Wow, that is unbelievable! Did you know they are still talking about that Flood in many cultures around the world? So far 270 flood legends have been identified in different countries and cultures around the world.
The Hawaiians have a legend that says: “Long after the death of Kuniuhonna, the first man, the world became a wicked terrible place to live. There was one good man left; his name was Nu-u. He made a great canoe with a house on it, and filled it with animals. The waters came up over all the earth and killed all the people. Only Nu-u and his family were saved.” Uh, one family saved in a boat full of animals. Sounds kind of like the Bible's Flood story doesn't it?
The Chinese have a legend called the Hihking classic. They say that Fuhi is the father of their civilization. Fuhi, is probably Noah, ok. The story says: “Fuhi, his wife, three sons and three daughters, escaped a great flood. He and his family were the only people alive on earth. After the great flood they repopulated the world.” Interesting.
Now, the Mexican, the Toltec Indians in Mexico have a very interesting story. They said: “The first world lasted 1716 years and was destroyed by a flood that covered the highest mountains.” One family named Coxcox survived. 1716 years...? Well the Bible dates add up to 1656 from the creation to the Flood. That's not bad for a legend 4,000 years old!
Nearly 300 flood legends; Atlantis
Question: “Why would there be nearly 300 flood legends?” Ah, I think it is because there was a Flood. That's my theory, ok. Probably the Atlantis legend; everybody searching for the lost continents of Atlantis; probably that's another flood legend. As far as the folks on the boat were concerned, the whole world sank beneath the waves. Actually they were going up, they world wasn't going down. I think Atlantis is another flood story, anyway.
The fate of the ark revealed?
If you look at the country of Turkey, on the far right hand side you will find a mountain called Mount Ararat. It is 12 miles from the Russian border; a very politically unstable region. On a Turkish map it is called, ‘Nuhun Gemisi’ which means, Noah's big boat. That is the name of the region. They got signs; you drive right up to it. ‘Noah's big boat’, go this way, 5 kilometers. The Bible says: “The ark rested in the seventh month.” (Gen. 8:4) Now, that's interesting. Noah did not get out till the 13th month. Why would he stay in there for 5½ extra months after the ark rested? Oh, we cover all the reasons why on video #6: The Hovind Theory.
But, the Bible says: “It rested in the seventh month... upon the mountains of Ararat,” mountains-plural. The Bible does not say the ark landed on Mt. Ararat. Read it carefully, it does not say that. It says that it landed “ upon the mountains of Ararat.” Actually there are four theories about what happened to Noah's ark, ok.
- One theory says: “They took it apart and used the lumber for buildings.”
- Second theory says: “It rotted.”
- The third theory says: “It's still on the mountain.”
- And the fourth theory says: “It's in the valley.”
And the guys who think that it is on the mountain, go over there every couple of years, on a big expedition. They climb the mountain and they all come back and say: “You know, we almost found it.” I am not sure how you can know you almost found something. But anyway, that's what they say. Maybe it's there, I don't know. It doesn't matter to me at all, ok. But other folks think: “Hey guys, it isn't even on that mountain, it's down in the valley 17 miles away.” And they think that is Noah's ark right there, that boat shaped object, kind of a tear drop shape. In 1960, this was discovered by a high altitude surveillance plane. In 1978 there was an earthquake, and either it lifted up, or the ground dropped down, I don't know, the result is the same. It is now sticking up out of the ground about 18-20 feet (5.8 m).
Ron Wyatt died in 1999, he was a good friend of mine. He and many others have spent years studying this thing, but they think it is Noah's ark. Like I said, honestly, I don't know, and I don't care. It doesn't matter to me where it is. Some Christians and creationists get all upset with anybody that mentions there might be another theory besides theirs. Look, my approach to any subject is, if there is more than one option, tell everybody all the options. And say here is the various theories on this, here is why I believe this one, but hé, go ahead and research it yourself. I think that you ought to look at all the options. Richard Reeves took over for Ron. There he is in front of his model of Noah's ark that he build.
Various additional seminar slides about the finds with better resolution can be consulted here (pop-up window).
But according to them the ark has collapsed. Obvious a boat that old would, you know, cave in and fold out to the side; it splayed. One of the argument the skeptics use is: “Well, it is too wide to be Noah's ark.” Well, of course it is too wide. Boats all do that. They fall outwards. You can go to any old rotten boat some place, you will see the same affect. But radar scans showed that there are deck timbers. Some kind of huge timbers in there. Apparently it is some kind of big structure. They find iron rivets in there. The ark was bolted together. They knew about iron back then, not a problem. You can see some of the rivets at the Wyatt Museum, www.wyattmuseum.com, south of Nashville, Tennessee. They used laminated wood, three layers of wood glued together with a tar-like substance. Pitch made from tree sap. And apparently it is like basic plywood, ok. Huge thick layers of wood, and there's no grain in the wood. Interesting, it is almost like the trees did not have growing seasons, the wood they were using, anyway.
The Wyatt Museum is a converted gas station, just south of Nashville at exit 27. On the northwest corner; you can stop down there and see them. Mrs. Wyatt wrote a book called, The Boat Shaped Object on Doomsday Mountain, with all the research she and her husband had done on that. Apparently the ark landed close to Mount Ararat, got stuck in the mud, everybody got off and left. Some time later, there was a mud flow and/or a lava flow, that pushed the ark down and broke the bottom off. What used to be the keel, full of ballast for weight to keep it upright. It was broken off and it's way up near the mountain. The ark has apparently moved down several miles from where it used to be. It used to be way over here to the left, at a little village named Kazan, which in Turkish means, village of eight. Village of eight?, now wait a minute, there was eight people on that boat, but... Apparently the ark has drifted down from where it used to be, and that is another long story. But the government of Turkey, studied all this, and they say: “Yep, that's Noah's ark.” They even built a visitor's center.
Not the ark?
Now, some folks have said: “It is not Noah's ark; it is a boat shaped object, it is just a flow stone. It's flow formation around a stationary object. When mud flows around something, it makes that tear drop shape, like an airplane wing.” Yes, I understand, it does, you're right. But the pointed end of the tear drop is always down stream. The rounded end is upstream, like an airplane wing. This one is backwards. There are flow formations in that area, no question, but this is not one of them. One guy argued it is just a fort. Who would build a fort under a hill? Duh, the guys throw rocks down inside, you know. Anyway, some creationists say: “It is not Noah's ark!,” and they get mad at me for even mentioning. Well, I am sorry, I'm gonna mentioning it till I start working for you and then I'll quit, ok?
The design of the ark
But the Bible says: “The ark shall be three hundred cubits (140 m) long.” (Gen. 6:15) Now, a cubit is elbow to fingertip. I am six foot one; my cubit is 21 inches (53 cm). The average standard Egyptian cubit was 20.65 (52 cm), just a hair shorter than mine. That boat shaped object is 515 feet (157 m) long, which is 300 Egyptian cubits. So, that does not prove it is the ark, but it is interesting it is the right size. It is about ⅔'s of the size of the Titanic. Two football fields long. A pretty good size boat.
In that region near the village of Kazan, they found twelve giant rocks. They weigh 9,000 pounds (4,000 kg). These rocks appear at Kazan, 9,000 pounds, and they have holes in the top. Apparently this rock was to be held over the side of the boat, to be what is called an anchor stone or a drogue stone. And the hole in the top of the rock is curved. I have drilled a lot of holes in my life, I've done a lot of building construction. I don't know how you would drill a curved hole through a rock, but there they are.
When the sea of Galilee dried up quite a bit here ten years ago, it exposed all kinds of beams that have not been exposed in centuries. And all around there they found hundreds of small rocks with holes in them. It's a common practice in stormy areas like that to put rocks around the side of the boat to keep the boat stabilized. Give it some weight. If it gets windy, you drop them down into the water and you now have a sea anchor. All the way around the boat. But anyway, there are a lot of folks they think they are drogue stones or sea anchors for Noah's ark. What this would do, this would make the boat stable during stormy weather. It is almost like you are anchored to the water if you can imagine that. And if it really gets windy the rocks are gonna drag behind you. And now you are always perpendicular to the waves, you can't capsize.
One atheist wrote me a letter and he said: “Hovind, I heard your seminar about Noah's ark having big rocks hanging over the side. You are so stupid! Don't you know if he had rocks hanging all over the boat it would slow him down?” I wrote back: “Where is he going?” There was no place to go, ok. The whole world was under water, ok. He is just trying to float. You see, Noah, the instructions are real simple. Get in, sit down, float, land, get out, ok. You do not have to go anywhere, no sails; you do not have to steer the boat, ok. One atheist said: “A sail boat was built with six masts and it leaked so bad because of the twisting from the sails.” Well, Noah's ark didn't have any sails, ok. It just was designed to float.
And some people think it may have had a moon pool in the center. Because a long ship has trouble going over the waves. It tends to lift up and the ends are exposed and it tends to flex or break in the middle. Well if Noah's ark had a moon pool that would solve the problem. What it is, it is a hole in the center. As the waves go up and down, the water goes up and down inside that hole. Of course you have a wall built up on the inside, it is called a moon pool. As the water goes up and down inside that moon pool going over the waves. It acts like a giant piston, fwooh..., fwooh..., forcing in fresh air in and out of the boat every time you hit a wave. You might actually pray for a good wave once in a while. “Hey Lord we are about to feed the elephants, would you please send a wave?,” ya.
Education and responsibility towards our children
Anway, what happened to the dinosaurs when Noah got off the ark? You know the question of what happened to the dinosaurs, has been used in schools to start a conversation about evolution, for a long time. One of Satan's favorite tools to use is dinosaurs, because kids love ’em. I spoke at a public school one time to 300 first graders, try that some time. I drove a church bus for 17 years. And I taught junior church for 17 years. There were 300 first graders in this room where I was speaking. And I got my dinosaurs out and I said: “Boys and girls, I got a question for ya: ‘When did dinosaurs live?’” I mean, instantly all of them shouted out: “Millions of years ago!” I thought, now wait a minute, these kids are first grade, ok. They can barely read. How do they believe that already? Where have the Christians been, teaching the truth about creation. Why are we waiting till the kids get their mind polluted with evolution and then trying to win them back. Why don't we just not lose them to begin with? Why hasn't there been a Christian response to this dinosaur stuff?
What the Christians did in the 1800's is they compromised their Bible. With the Gap theory to accommodate the dinosaurs. And then they let Satan have the dinosaurs; that's what happened exactly. But anyway there are sixteen theories as to what happened to the dinosaurs. One theory says, asteroids struck the Yucatan Peninsula in, you know, Mexico and killed them all 65 million years ago. A scientist here in Indiana said: “The dinosaurs killed themselves off with their own flatulence. They could not stand the heat.” I am not sure what to do about a theory like that, but here is the real reason they went extinct, smoking. Ya, anyway. What made the dinosaurs go extinct? Do you realize they are asking the wrong question? The question is not: “What made them go extinct?” The question is: “Did they go extinct?”
See, the liberals are always real good at getting us to argue about the wrong subject. They are always asking me: “Should we have creation taught in public schools?” I said: “That's a good question, I would be glad to discuss that.” However there is another question we should ask first, ok. The real question is: “Should we have public schools?” Let's argue that one for a while first, ok. And if we are going to have them, then we'll discuss what should be taught in them, and who decides what is taught in them? I mean, does Bill Clinton decide what's taught? Or does Osama bin Laden decide what's taught? Or should you decide what's taught, may be I should decide? See, the whole problem is some people have this idiot idea that children belong to the state. No, no, no, you see, children belong to God, and they are entrusted to parents. And the parents should decide what God wants them to be taught, the state does not ever have any children. It is sterile, ok, it can't have children. So they want to steal yours. That is another long interesting story, but anyway... The Tenth Amendment of the Constitution says that the federal government only has certain very limited powers. And anything else is left to the states. The federal government has no business being involved in education, or welfare, or hurricane relief, or anything else. No business at all. If you wanna see why the schools went public, there is many good articles. One by Samuel Blumenfeld, that is incredible, about why we have a public school system. It is all part of the plan for a ‘New World Order’. A big part of the plan. Get our College Class CSE 102. I teach College Classes on creation, where we going into much more detail. I chase every rabbit, and kick every dog. And you can get that if you get time.
Dragons and dinosaurs
The fate of the dinosaurs after they got off the ark
But anyway, dinosaurs getting off the ark had a very difficult time. The climate had changed; things were different. Remember, before the Flood people lived to be 900 years old, read your Bible. After the Flood they only lived to be 400 years old, and then 200, and then 100. Something changed.
- Well, for one thing that canopy overhead was gone.
- Number two, the soil was now not loaded with minerals like it is supposed to be to have plants grow like crazy.
- And the atmospheric pressure was different; the canopy had collapsed; it was gone, I believe. Sunlight was now getting through, radiation, etc.
Many more problems in the post-Flood environment. Dinosaurs had two problems:
- The climate change.
- Was probably worse; people hunted them, they killed them.
The Bible and written records call them dragons
No, they did not call them dinosaurs though. They called them dragons. See, the word ‘dinosaur’ wasn't made up until 1841. So for most of human history these creatures are called, dragons. Did you know, ‘dinosaurs’ is not even in the dictionary in 1891. For most of human history they were known as dragons. Now dragons are mentioned in the Bible 34 times. People say: “Why aren't dinosaurs in the Bible?” Last night I was talking to this lady at the counter at the hotel, she said: “Well, dinosaurs aren't in the Bible.” I said: “That's correct, that word wasn't made up till 1841.” And if you got the right Bible, that was translated 1611. So of course you are not gonna find that word in there, duh... But they called them dragons. Dragons are listed in the dictionary in 1946, as “now rare.”
As the population of people began to grow, after the Flood, the population of dragons began to go down. Because nobody wants to live next door to a dragon. Same thing happened in Cob County Georgia, where Atlanta is today. Do you realize how many grizzly bears there are roaming in the woods right now near Atlanta, Georgia? Zero. Do you know how many there were just 300 years ago? Hundreds. What happened to the grizzly bears in Cobb County, Georgia? Well, as people move in and civilize an area, the big ferocious animals are killed off or driven off, happens everywhere. If it came on the evening news tonight that there were 5 grizzly bears roaming around Cobb County, you know what would happen by six o'clock in the morning? They'd all be dead. Because every redneck in four states would be out there with a rifle, trying to shoot one, right? And whoever could shoot the biggest one would be a hero. They'd have his picture on the front page: “Hey, Bubba shot the grizzly bear and saved the village.” Yeah, he did. Well, that is exactly what happened to the dragons.
Tales about dragons and artifacts appear throughout history
If you could figure out a way to kill a dragon, they would be telling stories about you around the campfire from now on. People killed dragons:
- For meat;
- Because they were a menace;
- To prove that you were a hero;
- To prove you are superior;
- In competition for land, or;
- For medicinal purposes. Many ancient recipes call for dragon blood, dragon bones, dragon saliva. Why?
- Gilgamesh is famous for slaying a dragon.
- A Chinese legend tells about a guy named Yu that surveyed the land of China. It says: “After the Flood he surveyed the land, and divided it into sections. He built channels to drain the water off to sea and make the land livable again. Many snakes and dragons were driven from the marshlands.” Yeah, that's just normal if you want to build a city. You got to, you know, drive off the dragons, and then build your city. I mean, it was expected that you got to drive the dragons out, ok.
- Why would the Chinese calendar have 11 real animals, you know, the pig, the duck, the dog, and a dragon? Why would they put in a mythical animal in there? Could it be that at the time that they came up with these 12 symbols they were 12 real animals?
- There is one of the oldest pieces of pottery on planet earth. It's a piece of slate from Egypt; the first dynasty of united Egypt. It shows long necked dragons. We make replicas of it. If you wanna get one for a prize for your bus route, or to give out to the kid who does whatever, you know, your call. They will go crazy over this thing; it is half size replicas of one of the oldest pieces of pottery on earth. Why would they put long necked dinosaurs on pottery 3,800 years ago?
- Here is two long necked dinosaurs with a sheep in between their mouths.
- Here is a hippo tusk from the 12th century B.C., showing an animal with a long neck, and a long tail.
- Here's a cylinder seal, showing what appears to quite obviously be long neck dinosaurs.
A fiery flying serpent (Isaiah 14:29)
The Bible talks about “a fiery flying serpent,” in Isaiah 14 (v. 29). Wait a minute, a fiery flying serpent? Well, if you read the story of Herodotus. Herodotus says: “I went to a certain place in Arabia, almost exactly opposite Buto, to make inquiries of the winged serpents. On my arrival I saw the back bones and ribs of serpents in such numbers it is impossible to describe. The winged serpent is shaped like the water snake. Its wings are not feathered, but resemble very closely those of the bat. The place where the bones lie is at the entrance of a narrow gorge, between steep mountains. The story goes that with the spring, the winged snakes come flying from Arabia toward Egypt. But are met in this gorge by the bird called ibises, who forbid their entrance and destroy them all.” The book of Josephus talks about the fiery flying serpent that Moses had to kill when he came to the land of Ethiopia. And he ended up marrying the princess of the Ethiopians, which is why his sister got mad at him later, for marrying an Ethiopian. Not because she was black necessarily, but because of how this all happened. Here read the story in the Josephus book.
Leviathan, the fire breathing dragon (Job 41:1-34)
Anyway, in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle it talks about in “793 A.D.,” about the “fiery dragons flying across the firmament.” The Babylonian god Marduk, he is shown pictured on a fire breathing dragon. “You say, Brother Hovind, you do not believe in fire breathing dragons do you?” Yeah, I believe there were some. We cover all that in our videotape about Leviathan, but Job chapter 41 (v. 19-20) talks about Leviathan. It says: “Out of his mouth go burning lamps and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke.” You know, I have seen deacons do that in the Southern Baptist churches, ok. So that's no big deal. “His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.” (Job 41:21) Now wait-wait-wait, was there really a fire breathing dragon? Well you better watch the Leviathan video, about the fire breathing dragon.
But if you get a Catholic bible, you find the book of Daniel has two extra chapters in it. It is part of the Apocrypha books, ok, Daniel 13 and 14. Very interesting reading. Definitely not Scripture, ok, but in Daniel 14 (v. 22-26), it says: “There was a great dragon in the place and the Babylonians worshipped him. And the king said to Daniel, Behold thou canst not say that this is not a living god: adore him therefore. And Daniel said: I adore the Lord my God: for he is the living God: but that is no living god. But give me leave (that is permission, what you military guys know about; leave, ok), and I will kill this dragon without sword or club. And the king said, I give thee leave. Then Daniel took pitch, and fat, and hair, and boiled them together: and made lumps, and put them into the dragons mouth, and the dragon burst assunder.” What a strange story.
Let me give you the Hovind translation, ok. The Bible tells us that Daniel was a man who understood science. Those are the kind that Nebuchadnezzar took away at that time, ok. And Daniel would have known full well that pitch is made from tree sap and it is very sticky. Fat is salty tasting, and almost all animals like things that are salty tasting, and hair won't digest. So he made little lumps of pitch, fat and hair, tossed them in the dragon's den. Loved them, swallowed them, but then could not digest them, and they plugged up his intestinal tract. And these were the days before Roto-Rooter [plumbing & drain service], and so he burst assunder. You figure it out, ok.
Carvings of dragons on the gate of Babylon
Anyway, Saddam Insane, ...Hussein has quite an ego problem, he thinks he is Nebuchadnezzar, reincarnated. George Bush always called him Sa-daam Hussein; I wondered why is calling him Sa-daam Hussein. His name is Saddam. Well Saddam means, prince. Sa-daam means, horse's rear end. He called him, Sa-daam Hussein. Anyway, Saddam issued currency with his picture in front of Nebuchadnezzar. Saddam spent a fortune rebuilding the ancient city of Babylon. Did you know ancient Babylon was discovered buried in the dry sand over there. The bricks were nearly perfectly preserved by the dry sand. So they excavated ancient Babylon and rebuilt it. Babylon has been totally rebuilt in the last 20 or 30 years I believe. Saddam put a brick about every ten feet around the wall that says: “I am Saddam Hussein. I have rebuilt Babylon the Great; I am the grandson of Nebuchadnezzar.” But on that wall they found carvings of lions and carvings of dragons. Now, I can understand why they put a lion on there. We know about lions. But why would they put carvings of dragons on a brick wall, 2,600 years ago? Ah, maybe because they knew about, uh ...dragons? They are still there, you can go and see them, a friend of mine was there as a soldier. He says: “Yep, they are still here!” Dragons still on the wall from 2,600 years ago. Ishtar Gate is covered in them, lions and dragons, hmm. Now, we made a model of it for Dinosaur Adventure Land. If you wanna come to Pensacola, that is a little more closer than Iraq for most of you.
More dragon tales; Beowulf story...
- Alexander the Great said his soldiers were scared by dragons when they conquered part of India in 300 B.C.
- This Roman mosaic shows two long necked dragons fighting, or kissing. Now that would be necking, wow! Anyway, how did the Romans know about dragons in 200 A.D.?
- Saint George is famous for slaying a dragon in 275 A.D.
- Beowulf slew two dragons and the third one killed him. You should try to read the Beowulf story in Old English. Nya..., good luck. That's English, 1,500 years ago that was English. I can only read one word on the page and it says: “Duhuh...” But anyway, when they translate the story to modern English the story tells us Beowulf kills Grendel the dragon by pulling off one of its arms, and the creature bled to death. Pulled off his arm?
- Well, they found a Babylonian cylinder seal showing a guy pulling the arm off a dragon. Interesting.
Get the book After the Flood, if you want a whole lot more on dragons living with man.
But, there's a city in France that's famous because a dragon came up out of the water and a guy killed it. And cut the head off and stuck it over the corner of the building. The head of the dragon was mounted on this building. They called it the Gargoyle. How many have ever heard of the Gargoyle? They still do that today, you can buy these ugly little critters and put them on your buildings or over your door. The word Gargoyle means, throat. We get our word gargle, gurgle, regurgitate, gorge and glutton; from that word. Has to do with the throat. So next time you gargle, you can think about slaying a dragon.You say: “Brother Hovind, I am slaying a dragon when I gargle.” Hmm, ok, anyway...
More dragon tales (2); Vikings; Fafnir; Marco Polo...
- An Irish writer said they killed a dragon with iron nails on its tail. A Stegosaurus certainly had big spikes on his tail, that's for sure. So did several other animals.
- There's a Viking woodcut showing a dragon swallowing a guy. This is from the 11th century, 1,000 years ago, ok.
- The Vikings put dragon heads on their ships 1,000 years ago, why would they do that? Well, they knew about the great dragons of the sea, they called it the Kracken. Again Bill Cooper has got a lot about that in his book After the Flood.
- The famous Icelandic hero Siegfried slew the dragon Fafnir.
- Bricks were found in a castle from the 12th century showing dragons. Here is a 12th century castle in Germany with dragons on it. Why would they put dragons on their castles?
- Marco Polo lived in China for 17 years. When he came back he said the emperor is raising dragons to pull chariots in his parades. Why would he say that? Oh, probably because the Chinese Emperor was raising dragons to pull chariots in his parades; that's my theory, ok. In 1611 they appointed the post of ‘Royal Dragon Feeder’. Why do you need a royal dragon feeder? Uh..., let me guess, to feed the dragon, ok.
- There is a 13th century castle with dragons on it.
- A grave from the 15th century carved in brass showing two long necked dinosaurs.
- 16th century castle has dragons on it.
- We have seven coins in our museum on loan, they are silver dollars from 1500's to 1600's. Real silver dollars, all of them show somebody slaying a dragon.
It was common 400 years ago. Everybody knew about slaying dragons. Of course you got to slay the dragon. You know, that's just standard procedure. Slay the dragon, rescue the princess, or whatever, I don't know.
- There's a Russian medallion, showing a guy killing a dragon.
- A Bulgarian postage stamp has somebody killing a dragon.
- The crest of Lithuania shows somebody killing a dragon.
- A city in France was renamed Nerluc, to honor the man who slew the dragon.
A rebuttal of an evolutionist: “Dinosaurs died 12, èh 65 million years ago”; A ‘rapidly aging’ earth
- Indians carved dinosaurs on the walls of the Grand Canyon.
Why would they put dinosaurs on the walls of Grand Canyon. Maybe because they hunted dinosaurs around there? Hmm...
In 1925, some guys took a raft trip down the canyons out west and they wrote a report. They saw one of these dinosaurs. And they said: “The fact that some prehistoric man made a pictograph of a dinosaur on the walls of this canyon upsets completely all of our theories.” Oh, they upset his theories, oh no.
He said: “About a year ago, a photograph of a dinosaur was shown to a scientist of national repute, who was then specializing in dinosaurs.” He said: “It is not a dinosaur, it is impossible, because we know dinosaurs were extinct 12 million years before man appeared on earth.” Oh, hold on just a minute, ok. In the first place it is not possible for you to know what happened 12 million years ago, ok. So, let's just get that straight first up, ok. Secondly, notice he said “12 million.” Now, today the kids are taught dinosaurs died 65 million years ago, aren't they? 65 million years ago?
It is interesting to see the inflation of the age of the earth. See, in 1770 they said the earth was 70,000 years old. By 1905, it was 2 billion years old. 1969 it was 3.5 billion years old. Today it is 4.6. Did you know the earth is getting older at the rate of 21 million years per year. That is 40 years per minute, ok; it is aging rapidly, folks, anyway....
More dragon tales (3)
- If you go to Blanding, Utah you will see carvings of dinosaurs on the cliff there. Apparently they knew about dinosaurs in Utah. The Indians knew about them. They killed them, apparently.
- This is a cave painting in Australia, showing a guy running away from what appears to be a dinosaur.
- I can't pronounce the name of this place in Canada, Misshepezhieu, in Ontario. It looks like these Indians painted something on the cliff there that appears to be like a dinosaur with a dermal frill ridge down its back.
- This is a painting in Australia, these guys are all dancing that quite obviously looks like a dinosaur. Apparently they are upset because it ate their friend, ok. There's the friend inside. Now, give him back please, right now, anyway...
This guy says. “Nobody has ever seen a dinosaur.” Why did they put them on cave paintings? Why did they put them on ancient pottery? Why do we see so many legends of dragons if nobody has ever seen one?
Nazca Lines (Peru)
Down in Peru, they've got the driest desert in the world. It's only rained twice in 400 years, this is my understanding. When the Spanish came across there in 1500's, they found white lines on the desert. They were obviously manmade. Somebody piled up the rocks. There's a pile of white rocks, goes sometimes for miles, straight as an arrow. These today are called the Nazca Lines. How many have ever heard of the Nazca images? They've got all these images down there in Peru. You can study that if you'd like. But strange, these images are interesting. But one of them shows a spider, which has no eyes and one leg is longer than the rest. And for centuries everybody thought: “Well, these were poor, ignorant, stupid people,” you know. They forgot to put the eyes on, and they made the one leg longer by an accident. Recently there was a spider discovered in the Amazon Jungle, a thousand miles away. It only lives in caves, it is extremely rare. It is supposed to be one of the rarest spiders on earth. It's ⅛ of an inch (3 mm) long, little tiny spider. It lives a thousand miles away in the dark, in the caves; the spider has no eyes. And during mating season, that one particular leg grows longer and it exchanges DNA off the tip of that leg for 15 seconds. How did they know that in Peru, a thousand miles away? Maybe they weren't so stupid after all. Hmm... anyway...
Ica Burial Stones (Peru)
In 1535, the Spanish conquistadors came through that area and they found stones with strange animals on them. They sent some back to the king of Spain, and said “What on earth are these animals carved on these rocks?” The king said: “I have no clue.” Today they are called the Ica Burial Stones, from Ica, Peru. Dennis Swift is probably the world's expert on those; he is one of my good friends from Portland, Oregon. He did a great session at our creation boot camp in 2005. Our creation boot camp that we have in Pensacola, Florida. And we got his DVD's with him speaking on the Ica Stones. It is incredible; you can still get those on our website, but... these stones show dinosaurs on them. The Nazca Burial Stones from about the time of Christ, plus or minus a few hundred years. Some of them show brain surgery. They find brain surgery instruments, hardened copper. Tempered copper instruments for cutting into people heads, apparently. Some of them show heart surgery, limb reattachment. Steam engine, one of them showed what looked like a steam engine. Strange things are found on these Ica stones in Peru. But quite a few of them; over 500, I believe; show dinosaurs. Why would they have dinosaurs and humans on the same stones? Well, because people lived with dinosaurs. Anyway, there is plenty on that.
- There's one from our museum. It shows a dinosaur holding a guy by the head.
- This one we've got shows what appears to be a guy cutting the head off the dragon, because the dragon killed his friend. You can see the friend's body is inside, but his head is missing. So his buddy is just doing what the Bible says, you know: “Vengeance is fine sayeth the Lord,” something like that, but...
- This guy is jabbing one through the throat with a spear.
- This one is hard to see, but he is shoving the spear down the dragons throat.
- This one, the dragon's has got the guy by the arm, and apparently his spirit is leaving, he is flying off into heaven. Or wherever they believe they go when they die in their culture, you know.
- This guy got the knife stuck in the dragon's head, and the dragon is biting the guy.
We have eight of these stones in Pensacola, Florida. It is the largest collection in America, I believe. At 1,500 dollars each, you know, not too many people have these things.
[5 of them are shown here]
Some of them show circles on the side. Now, that is kind of interesting. Why would they put circles on the sides of the dinosaurs? Well, nobody had ever found dinosaur skin, until about 20 years ago, when fossilized dinosaur skin was found. It is very interesting, the dinosaur skin has circle patterns on it. They had to see a live one to know to put that on the stones. Because you couldn't tell that from the bones. We got some dinosaur skin in our museum in Pensacola. Recently they just found unfossilized soft, dinosaur tissue. Soft dinosaur tissue? So, now the brilliant scientists try to figure out how could tissue stay soft for 70 million years? The thought will never cross their brain to question that it may not be 70 million years old. I mean, that thought will never enter their head, ok.
- This guy is cutting the head off a dragon.
- There's a guy riding one.
We got a ton of information about dinosaurs living with man. Sometimes they're in friendly gestures.
- Like this one shows a man petting one, he has his head laying on its shoulder, ok.
More artifacts with dragons
Pottery was found with dinosaurs on it. A mummy was found in a tomb wrapped in a blanket, and all around the blanket were dinosaurs. Why would they put dinosaurs on their blankets? Why would they put it on their pottery? Why would they carve them on cliff walls? Why would they put them on their waistbands? In Acámbaro, Mexico, 56,000 ceramic figurines of dinosaurs were found. They knew about them in central Mexico.
They have always lived with man, they did not live millions of years ago. But everybody today is saying: “Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and nobody has ever seen one.” Yah, I think they have, ok. An Italian peasant killed a dragon that was bothering his cows. They had it stuffed and mounted for a museum display in 1572. By the way, do you know why so many Italians are named Tony? Years ago they were shipping them to America and stamped on their forehead: ‘To:NY’. Just a little bit of trivia there, but....
- The Sutton artifact appears to show what looks like a Pterodactyl with his wings folded up.
- This lady sent me this picture of a dragon found in Utah. She said: “Brother Hovind, it looks like a dinosaur to me,” carved on a cliff up here.
- Roman artifacts were found in Tucson, Arizona.
By the way the Romans came across the ocean way before Columbus did. Columbus was not the first white man across the ocean. There was trade back and forth for centuries until, you know, the Catholic Church kinda had the dark ages come in and shut down knowledge and information. But Brendan the Navigator came across in 500 A.D. Hebrew coins were found in Ohio in a burial mound. There was trade back and forth at the time of Christ, across the ocean. In Los Lunas, Decalogue Stone here, found in New Mexico. There's an 80 ton stone showing the Ten Commandments, in Byzantine, which is only used about 500 A.D. is my understanding. Somebody came across try to evangelize America, made it as far as New Mexico, 1,500 years ago.
But one of these Roman swords shows what quite obviously appears to be a dinosaur on it. How on earth could they get dinosaurs on their swords at the time of the Roman Empire?
Dinosaur sightings and legends at sea
During the age of sailing ships there are thousands of legends of people sighting sea monsters. Well, if you are in a sailboat it is kinda quiet going through the water, ok. Today in a diesel engine they can hear you coming 50 miles away under water. Of course you are not going to see one, alright. But there are legends all over the world, of dragons living with man. I think we've really been lied to. We can spend a long time on dragon legends. I read prolifically on that topic about dragon sightings down through history. Just get our video #3 if you want more on dragon legends.
Did you know that there are actually stories on giant octopus living in the ocean? I mean like really, really, really big octopus. One octopus washed up on the beach in Florida. It was 200 feet across and weighed 5 tons. That's a big octopus. A whale was killed near Seattle; inside the whale's stomach was one arm to an octopus that was 150 feet long. Whales love to eat octopus. And if a whale eats too much octopus he will get sick and puke it back up. And if you ever see a piece of puked up octopus floating around in the ocean, be sure to grab it. It is worth a fortune. Does anybody know what they make out of puked up octopus? Perfume, that is correct. That explains a few things, doesn't it, fellows? “Hey dear, you smell like a puked up octopus.” - “Yeah, and you can sleep on the couch for a month too.” There are giant squids found out there in the ocean. I mean really big squids, we could spend a long time on that one. But a giant squid washed up on the beach in New Zealand. They said it was a baby. Full grown it would have been 150 feet long.
People say: “Now wait-wait-wait, Dr. Hovind, if there are dinosaurs mentioned all through history, are dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible?” Oh yeah! Dinosaurs in the Bible? Gee, yeah, we are gonna cover that in the next session. Dinosaurs not only mentioned in the Bible, some dinosaurs might still be alive. We will cover that in a minute.
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